So Fucked Up

[Riku]

Originally Posted by Jebus

Do you think these people were doing this solely to tarnish this girls image? Do you think they did this because they're a bunch of perverts trying to sneak in some action on some little girl? I'll guess that's a no.

BloodAndHonour reached a perfectly reasonable and valid conclusion given the information posted above. Taking both sides of this post into account it is perfectly reasonable to assume there was no ill intent involved and the people doing this search were genuinely interested in the safety of their students.

Was what they did right? Was it an appropriate response? Absolutely not. There's no question about that. This girl will be fine after what happened to her. She was the victim of an overreaction and nothing more. The only reason she will have suffered any long term trauma will be because other people have made such a huge deal out of it as I have stated before.

Either way, I still don't agree with the way it was carried out. Period.
There's no way around it, and I have the ability to feel what its like if I was in her parents position, and it wouldn't be very cool to have this go down, and to have to have my child tell me rather than receiving a call saying "your child was strip-searched today in school for prescription medication."

I'm not trying to make such a big deal about it, i'm merely trying to say if I was in the parent's position I would be unhappy.

Say what you will, but it's my opinion.

[Jebus]

Originally Posted by Riku

Either way, I still don't agree with the way it was carried out. Period.

Yes.

Originally Posted by Riku

and I have the ability to feel what its like if I was in her parents position

Uhh... No.

But... Close enough.

[Riku]

Originally Posted by Jebus

Yes.



Uhh... No.

But... Close enough.

What do you mean by "No."...?

[Templar]

Originally Posted by Hot Shot

But the question remains, who would believe a 13 year-old girl?

~HS

I love it when people fail to read what was put in front of them.

First, she is 19 now, not 13. Second, the search was ruled as reasonable initially, however the 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals found it excessive. "A federal appeals court found the search "traumatizing" and illegal."

"Common sense informs us," wrote the court, "that directing a 13-year-old girl to remove her clothes, partially revealing her breasts and pelvic area, for allegedly possessing ibuprofen ... was excessively intrusive."

Essentially, the search WAS conducted, and apparently the school officials do not deny any of her accusations, or else it wouldn't have gotten this far in the appeals process. The current issue is if school officials are allowed to conduct searches like this, not whether the strip search was actually conducted or not. That bridge has already been crossed, and at no point did school officials deny the search.

[Outlaw]

Originally Posted by Riku

What do you mean by "No."...?

I can't speak for Jebus, but from what I see he means, no, you do not know what it feels like to be in the parent's situation.

[Hot Shot]

Originally Posted by Templar

I love it when people fail to read what was put in front of them.

I fixed it, are you happy now?

~HS

[Jebus]

Originally Posted by Outlaw

I can't speak for Jebus, but from what I see he means, no, you do not know what it feels like to be in the parent's situation.

Feel free to be my lips anytime.

The way Riku had worded the particular sentence I was responding to seemed to have a " I am blessed with a special ability" kind of feel to it. To emphasize my point I will write out his sentence as I read it.

and I have the ability to feel what its like if I was in her parents position

!!INTERPRETATION!!
A special power has been bestowed upon me. It allows me to experience in full detail the feelings and emotions of another human being fully accounting for every life experience and thought leading up until the point in time I am sharing with that person.

No. You might at best be able to achieve a 60% understanding of how the parents felt but there is absolutely no way you could ever know exactly how they felt. Perhaps if you had said "I know how I would feel about this if I were her parents" I would have given you a yes.

But... No.


I hope you don't see this as a form of hostility that could have possible formed between our differences in opinion. Just sain naw sain?

[gixix]

wow yes funny cat lmfao but all i would do is open up a can of whoop ass

[Riku]

Originally Posted by Jebus

Feel free to be my lips anytime.

The way Riku had worded the particular sentence I was responding to seemed to have a " I am blessed with a special ability" kind of feel to it. To emphasize my point I will write out his sentence as I read it.



No. You might at best be able to achieve a 60% understanding of how the parents felt but there is absolutely no way you could ever know exactly how they felt. Perhaps if you had said "I know how I would feel about this if I were her parents" I would have given you a yes.

But... No.


I hope you don't see this as a form of hostility that could have possible formed between our differences in opinion. Just sain naw sain?

Contrary to popular belief, i'm only a paladin in world of warcraft.
A power beyond humanity hasn't been bestowed upon me, but you did a hell of a good job wasting my time.

[Zerrin]

Originally Posted by Riku

Contrary to popular belief, i'm only a paladin in world of warcraft.

WTF?!?! You're not jesus!?