Go Back   RPG Forums > RPG Forums > Diablo II > D2 Character Development Discussion > Sorceress

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes

Max Block Or Es Sorc ?
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 01-14-2007, 05:28 PM
vasya's Avatar
vasya vasya is offline
Mega Demon
 

Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 1,909
Rep Power: 7
vasya is just really nicevasya is just really nicevasya is just really nicevasya is just really nicevasya is just really nicevasya is just really nice
Send a message via MSN to vasya
Default Max Block Or Es Sorc ?

Whats better ? in pvp ofc
__________________
Reply With Quote

  #2 (permalink)  
Old 01-14-2007, 05:30 PM
Eclipse's Avatar
Eclipse Eclipse is offline
Frozen Horror
 

Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,543
Rep Power: 10
Eclipse is just really niceEclipse is just really niceEclipse is just really niceEclipse is just really niceEclipse is just really niceEclipse is just really nice
Default

Depends on what u can afford, and wut type of sorc.
__________________
^^Y

with love, from jake (Jibblet)

--->*#1 PvP Druid Guide*<---
Reply With Quote

  #3 (permalink)  
Old 01-14-2007, 05:31 PM
white_raven's Avatar
white_raven white_raven is offline
Zakarum Priest
 

Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Quebec
Posts: 1,390
Rep Power: 6
white_raven is just really nicewhite_raven is just really nicewhite_raven is just really nicewhite_raven is just really nicewhite_raven is just really nice
Default

IMo
energy shield

max block u need 2 type of stats
agility and vita

Go for pure energy shield its fun
__________________

Reply With Quote

  #4 (permalink)  
Old 01-14-2007, 05:32 PM
vasya's Avatar
vasya vasya is offline
Mega Demon
 

Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 1,909
Rep Power: 7
vasya is just really nicevasya is just really nicevasya is just really nicevasya is just really nicevasya is just really nicevasya is just really nice
Send a message via MSN to vasya
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eclipse
Depends on what u can afford, and wut type of sorc.
can afford anything rly

And i am about blizz or fb
__________________
Reply With Quote

  #5 (permalink)  
Old 01-14-2007, 05:32 PM
psycho.hatred's Avatar
psycho.hatred psycho.hatred is offline
Mummy
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 543
Rep Power: 5
psycho.hatred will become famous soon enough
Default

both? but if u only have to choose 1 i think es is better then pump ur enrgy
__________________

You lost me in translation.
Master of awkward conversation.
Reply With Quote

  #6 (permalink)  
Old 01-14-2007, 05:35 PM
DKing's Avatar
DKing DKing is offline
Balrog
 

Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Sabresville
Posts: 2,386
Rep Power: 10
DKing is a splendid one to beholdDKing is a splendid one to beholdDKing is a splendid one to beholdDKing is a splendid one to beholdDKing is a splendid one to beholdDKing is a splendid one to beholdDKing is a splendid one to beholdDKing is a splendid one to behold
Default

u can do both if u want.

you'll just need more mana charms, items then.
__________________
Reply With Quote

  #7 (permalink)  
Old 01-14-2007, 05:39 PM
Eclipse's Avatar
Eclipse Eclipse is offline
Frozen Horror
 

Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,543
Rep Power: 10
Eclipse is just really niceEclipse is just really niceEclipse is just really niceEclipse is just really niceEclipse is just really niceEclipse is just really nice
Default

Yea ive noticed u are fairly well off in terms of wealth.

On an fb, i would go block if u were 105/86 and vita. If u go 200 i would go es.

On blizz, in YOUR terms u could afford to go both. heh

I'm more of a fan of es > block though. Seems noobish cuz i have no stack but i only find my problematic chars are Bowazons. But even still, i can survive vs all other chars that dont have massive stack/sorb. And without going block u have more life/mana for those chars dont use attacks that will make u block, like BvCs.

If u go block u will also do more dmg. For blizz, some ppl think 10k blizz w/o maxed out cold mastery is too little dmg, but i think its good enuff. =/

Go es/block on ur blizz lool.
__________________
^^Y

with love, from jake (Jibblet)

--->*#1 PvP Druid Guide*<---
Reply With Quote

  #8 (permalink)  
Old 01-14-2007, 06:18 PM
King Of Kings's Avatar
King Of Kings King Of Kings is offline
Balrog
 

Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Orange County, California.
Posts: 2,326
Rep Power: 7
King Of Kings is a jewel in the roughKing Of Kings is a jewel in the roughKing Of Kings is a jewel in the roughKing Of Kings is a jewel in the rough
Default

Vasya, your blizz sorc is fine with vita man. It'll own pubbies. If you use it right. But if your going FB, go ES/Max block.
__________________



Reply With Quote

  #9 (permalink)  
Old 01-14-2007, 08:36 PM
ScytheReaper's Avatar
ScytheReaper ScytheReaper is offline
Claw Viper
 

Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 369
Rep Power: 3
ScytheReaper will become famous soon enough
Default

If your using something like spirit, no max block.
__________________

Account: K-RocKer (Orange is a mans color)
Always up for some gm team, tourny, or 1v1 duels. Just Message.
Help control the PvP Hammerdin/Smiter population. Have your paladins spayed or neutered
My little D2 vid (funny)((to me at least lol...))
Reply With Quote

  #10 (permalink)  
Old 01-14-2007, 08:51 PM
dehnar's Avatar
dehnar dehnar is offline
Abominable
 

Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 4,406
Rep Power: 11
dehnar is a name known to alldehnar is a name known to alldehnar is a name known to alldehnar is a name known to alldehnar is a name known to alldehnar is a name known to alldehnar is a name known to alldehnar is a name known to all
Send a message via AIM to dehnar
Default

why do people continue to ask this question we have a search button for a reason and this queston is asked 2-3 times a week. its your decision, they both have there flaws and gains. and most important it depends on what gear you want to use. you guys come in with a half ass question and want a full statement answer. post your gear/realm and all other aspects.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drizzt
Not shabby. He's got balls. I like balls.
Reply With Quote

  #11 (permalink)  
Old 01-14-2007, 09:02 PM
Tomspeople's Avatar
Tomspeople Tomspeople is offline
Rancid Defiler
 

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Canada
Posts: 6,521
Rep Power: 19
Tomspeople has a brilliant futureTomspeople has a brilliant futureTomspeople has a brilliant futureTomspeople has a brilliant futureTomspeople has a brilliant futureTomspeople has a brilliant futureTomspeople has a brilliant futureTomspeople has a brilliant futureTomspeople has a brilliant futureTomspeople has a brilliant futureTomspeople has a brilliant future
Send a message via MSN to Tomspeople
Default

moved to sorc section.
__________________

Thx to .Orange for the sig
<Jim`> levi on irc?
<Jim`> this is madness
<Tomspeople> madness? THIS IS RPGFORUMS
<Levinoss> rofl

Reply With Quote

  #12 (permalink)  
Old 01-15-2007, 01:42 AM
vasya's Avatar
vasya vasya is offline
Mega Demon
 

Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 1,909
Rep Power: 7
vasya is just really nicevasya is just really nicevasya is just really nicevasya is just really nicevasya is just really nicevasya is just really nice
Send a message via MSN to vasya
Default

EDIT: sdfsdfsdfsf
__________________

Last edited by vasya; 01-15-2007 at 01:56 AM.
Reply With Quote

  #13 (permalink)  
Old 01-15-2007, 06:10 AM
xxiixx's Avatar
xxiixx xxiixx is offline
Frozen Horror
 

Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,911
Rep Power: 13
xxiixx is a splendid one to beholdxxiixx is a splendid one to beholdxxiixx is a splendid one to beholdxxiixx is a splendid one to beholdxxiixx is a splendid one to beholdxxiixx is a splendid one to beholdxxiixx is a splendid one to beholdxxiixx is a splendid one to beholdxxiixx is a splendid one to behold
Send a message via MSN to xxiixx
Default

For Blizz, I like the vita + max dr build.
Max block with a sanctuary is nice to.

With fb builds, Id suggest hippos guide if you can afford similar gear selections.
__________________

Quote:
Lol; check my myspace and compare it to yours. Who doesn't have friends now?
...Can you say 'Get a LIFE away from your computer?
Reply With Quote

  #14 (permalink)  
Old 01-15-2007, 07:10 AM
SinRG's Avatar
SinRG SinRG is offline
Balrog
 

Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 2,440
Rep Power: 13
SinRG has a brilliant futureSinRG has a brilliant futureSinRG has a brilliant futureSinRG has a brilliant futureSinRG has a brilliant futureSinRG has a brilliant futureSinRG has a brilliant futureSinRG has a brilliant futureSinRG has a brilliant futureSinRG has a brilliant futureSinRG has a brilliant future
Default

Combine the both of them, just carry lots of charms.
__________________
Platinums: Uncharted, LittleBigPlanet, Dead Space, Resistance 2, Call of Duty: World at War
Reply With Quote

  #15 (permalink)  
Old 01-15-2007, 01:23 PM
Raynor's Avatar
Raynor Raynor is offline
Defiled Warrior
 

Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 8,700
Rep Power: 21
Raynor has a brilliant futureRaynor has a brilliant futureRaynor has a brilliant futureRaynor has a brilliant futureRaynor has a brilliant futureRaynor has a brilliant futureRaynor has a brilliant futureRaynor has a brilliant futureRaynor has a brilliant futureRaynor has a brilliant futureRaynor has a brilliant future
Send a message via AIM to Raynor
Default

max block ES sorc (with whistans)

awesome combo... and i'd only made a fire sorc with those stats, es blizz sorcs aren't my favorite

CJ
__________________
You can't stop me. You can only hope to contain me.
Reply With Quote

  #16 (permalink)  
Old 01-18-2007, 02:36 PM
JamesgelFtW's Avatar
JamesgelFtW JamesgelFtW is offline
Oblivion Knight
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 2,804
Rep Power: 7
JamesgelFtW is a glorious beacon of lightJamesgelFtW is a glorious beacon of lightJamesgelFtW is a glorious beacon of lightJamesgelFtW is a glorious beacon of lightJamesgelFtW is a glorious beacon of lightJamesgelFtW is a glorious beacon of lightJamesgelFtW is a glorious beacon of light
Default

well if u had to pick one or the other go with es. But i would suggest both
__________________

PM If you have any questions About Maplestory!
Join The Count! http://rpgforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102052
Official Counting Team Member
Reply With Quote

  #17 (permalink)  
Old 01-18-2007, 03:10 PM
Demon26's Avatar
Demon26 Demon26 is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: NJ
Posts: 3,497
Rep Power: 0
Demon26 is just really niceDemon26 is just really niceDemon26 is just really niceDemon26 is just really niceDemon26 is just really niceDemon26 is just really nice
Default

whistans with es.

easily both
Reply With Quote

  #18 (permalink)  
Old 01-18-2007, 03:29 PM
Eclipse's Avatar
Eclipse Eclipse is offline
Frozen Horror
 

Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,543
Rep Power: 10
Eclipse is just really niceEclipse is just really niceEclipse is just really niceEclipse is just really niceEclipse is just really niceEclipse is just really nice
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Demon26
whistans with es.

easily both
Yea but then ull need the gear to back it up. In his case its fine i guess
__________________
^^Y

with love, from jake (Jibblet)

--->*#1 PvP Druid Guide*<---
Reply With Quote

  #19 (permalink)  
Old 01-25-2007, 05:11 PM
Zharous Zharous is offline
Sorceress Guru
 

Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 55
Rep Power: 4
Zharous will become famous soon enough
Default

FAQ answer: (BTW How come we don't have a FAQ other than the link to my web site of something I did almost 3 years ago?)

I. Why use Energy Shield

- Your mana pool contributes to your effective hit points. This greatly helps rich players as their life/mana charms will easily boost their mana pool far higher than they need simply for casting spells or teleporting.

- 70% - 95% of your damage is not taken away from life, instead it is removed from your quickly replenishing mana pool. As long as your mana pool is always large enough to absorb enemy damage, and you take damage slowly enough over time, this translates into a real 3X-10X on the total amount of damage you can take before dying.

- With a high energy shield level and enough life, it is possible to prevent all hit recovery stunning (which occurs when 1/12th of your life removed in one hit) This allows you to the either escape or continue firing when vita builds would simply sit there being stunned.

- With 20 actual skillpoints in telekinesis (+skill equipment does not help), you only lose 0.75 mana per every absorbed damage point.

- Max mana items are common, unlike +max health. With just a few items you can easily gain 4+ mana points for every stat point placed into energy. Items that provide +mana as well as charms also go through this multiplier.

1 vitality = 2 life = 2 damage absorbed
1 energy = 2 mana = 4.2 mana (110% max mana) = 5.6 damage absorbed (20 pts in telekinesis)
(50% = 2 sojs, 40% = Frostburn, 15% = hoto or wiz, 5% = arachnid)

- How large of a hit can you take and still divert most of that damage to your mana pool? With a 2000 mana pool, up to 16000 damage can be diverted partially to mana before your energy shield collapses (due the 0.75 telekinesis and 17% Pvp multipliers)

Disadvantages:

- Lots of extra skill points used meaning your attacks do less damage. (varies per build)

- Energy Shield is applied before resistance equipment and absorb. Huge elemental attacks will drain your mana pool far faster then anything else.

- Attacks such as poison and open wounds completely bypass energy shield and hit your health directly. And while poison can be reduced with +max resist items and poison length reduction, open wounds is completely unresistable other then by shield blocking.

- Resistance gear, Damage to mana, and absorb gear is far less effective for an energy shield sorceress then for a regular sorceress because they only affect life lost, not mana lost.

- While you are almost invulnerable if you take damage slowly, damage that is hit at a very fast rate can collapse your energy shield before your mana can recover, which usually means instant death

Last edited by Zharous; 01-25-2007 at 05:13 PM.
Reply With Quote

  #20 (permalink)  
Old 01-26-2007, 02:05 AM
vasya's Avatar
vasya vasya is offline
Mega Demon
 

Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 1,909
Rep Power: 7
vasya is just really nicevasya is just really nicevasya is just really nicevasya is just really nicevasya is just really nicevasya is just really nice
Send a message via MSN to vasya
Default

thx Zharous !
__________________
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:32 AM.


vBulletin skins developed by: eXtremepixels
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC8
Copyright ©2000-2008 RPGForums.com