Go Back   RPG Forums > RPG Forums > Diablo II > D2 Character Development Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes

  #21 (permalink)  
Old 06-27-2009, 12:58 PM
twizted_diablo's Avatar
twizted_diablo twizted_diablo is offline
Greater Mummy
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: AZ
Posts: 867
Rep Power: 6
twizted_diablo has a spectacular aura abouttwizted_diablo has a spectacular aura abouttwizted_diablo has a spectacular aura about
Send a message via MSN to twizted_diablo Send a message via Yahoo to twizted_diablo
Default

After reading this from the Arreat Summit, it does not seem to mention anything about ranged attacks.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Arreat Summit
Deadly Strike
This is a chance of doing double damage. All melee damage is doubled, whether its physical, magic or elemental (such as skills Berserk or Vengeance). Deadly strike is the last thing that's applied to your damage, meaning that all other damage modifiers are taken into account as well. Deadly Strike stack in all cases, there is only one chance to trigger a deadly strike blow per hit. There is no cap on how high the chance to trigger a deadly strike can get, but anything over 100% is a waste. Critical Strike (CS) and Deadly Strike (DS) exclude each other. Deadly Strike does not work with Smite.
Does this mean DS does not work with ranged attacks? Because I thought of this awesome combo.

Widowmaker Bow socket with Lo = 33 + 20 = 53% DS
Highlords Ammy = 0-37 % Deadly Strike (Based On Character Level)
Gore Rider Boots = 15% DS

Total: 105% DS
__________________
Reply With Quote

  #22 (permalink)  
Old 06-27-2009, 01:00 PM
Funky's Avatar
Funky Funky is offline
Death Mauler
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Quebec
Posts: 3,749
Rep Power: 18
Funky has a brilliant futureFunky has a brilliant futureFunky has a brilliant futureFunky has a brilliant futureFunky has a brilliant futureFunky has a brilliant futureFunky has a brilliant futureFunky has a brilliant futureFunky has a brilliant futureFunky has a brilliant futureFunky has a brilliant future
Send a message via MSN to Funky
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coldstone View Post
Yes they will work together, no it isnt really effective
Yes, it is really effective. You can go from like 5k to 20k.
__________________
Have you ever drink so much that you woke up the next morning and were still drunk?
Reply With Quote

  #23 (permalink)  
Old 06-27-2009, 01:04 PM
Coldstone's Avatar
Coldstone Coldstone is offline
Blood Lord
 

Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Bavaria/Germany
Posts: 3,374
Rep Power: 15
Coldstone has much to be proud ofColdstone has much to be proud ofColdstone has much to be proud ofColdstone has much to be proud ofColdstone has much to be proud ofColdstone has much to be proud ofColdstone has much to be proud ofColdstone has much to be proud ofColdstone has much to be proud ofColdstone has much to be proud ofColdstone has much to be proud of
Default

DS works, but only on physical damage, but your sorc does quite few physical, so its not really thaat good as thought. The double of low physical is still low .
__________________
Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed
by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do.

So throw off the bowlines.
Sail away from the safe harbor.
Catch the trade winds in your sails.

Explore, Dream, Discover
Reply With Quote

  #24 (permalink)  
Old 06-27-2009, 01:05 PM
Coldstone's Avatar
Coldstone Coldstone is offline
Blood Lord
 

Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Bavaria/Germany
Posts: 3,374
Rep Power: 15
Coldstone has much to be proud ofColdstone has much to be proud ofColdstone has much to be proud ofColdstone has much to be proud ofColdstone has much to be proud ofColdstone has much to be proud ofColdstone has much to be proud ofColdstone has much to be proud ofColdstone has much to be proud ofColdstone has much to be proud ofColdstone has much to be proud of
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Funky View Post
Yes, it is really effective. You can go from like 5k to 20k.
As mentioned before, it is a bug, it shows in char screen but isnt applied, you could test if you want, but it was already tested by some german freaks.
__________________
Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed
by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do.

So throw off the bowlines.
Sail away from the safe harbor.
Catch the trade winds in your sails.

Explore, Dream, Discover
Reply With Quote

  #25 (permalink)  
Old 07-01-2009, 03:46 AM
Asian_Menace's Avatar
Asian_Menace Asian_Menace is offline
Greater Mummy
 

Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
Posts: 964
Rep Power: 6
Asian_Menace has a spectacular aura aboutAsian_Menace has a spectacular aura about
Send a message via AIM to Asian_Menace
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by twizted_diablo View Post
Hmmmm interesting. Why would they choose Treachery over Bramble? Because of the IAS from Treachery? You get about 1K more dmg from Bramble

Also, Demon Machine over Widowmaker?
Bah sorry I was traveling, missed this.

I was going to put treachery over bramble originally because of the FHR, IAS, and all the other goodies. I don't find the extra poison damage necessary. Though, I later realized that CtC fade would override BoS at very inopportune times, which would make other armors more useful, like bramble or whatev.

I like demon machine because it is auto-hit against all monsters (Ignore target defense doesn't work against bosses I believe), and that demon machine pierces, and has a ridiculous base attack rate.
Reply With Quote

  #26 (permalink)  
Old 07-01-2009, 07:43 AM
twizted_diablo's Avatar
twizted_diablo twizted_diablo is offline
Greater Mummy
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: AZ
Posts: 867
Rep Power: 6
twizted_diablo has a spectacular aura abouttwizted_diablo has a spectacular aura abouttwizted_diablo has a spectacular aura about
Send a message via MSN to twizted_diablo Send a message via Yahoo to twizted_diablo
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Asian_Menace View Post
Bah sorry I was traveling, missed this.

I was going to put treachery over bramble originally because of the FHR, IAS, and all the other goodies. I don't find the extra poison damage necessary. Though, I later realized that CtC fade would override BoS at very inopportune times, which would make other armors more useful, like bramble or whatev.

I like demon machine because it is auto-hit against all monsters (Ignore target defense doesn't work against bosses I believe), and that demon machine pierces, and has a ridiculous base attack rate.
My Sin is currently equipped with Bramble and Widowmaker. I do have Treachery and Demon Machine Xbow, so I will swap out and see how it goes.

-TD
__________________
Reply With Quote

  #27 (permalink)  
Old 07-01-2009, 07:52 AM
Asian_Menace's Avatar
Asian_Menace Asian_Menace is offline
Greater Mummy
 

Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
Posts: 964
Rep Power: 6
Asian_Menace has a spectacular aura aboutAsian_Menace has a spectacular aura about
Send a message via AIM to Asian_Menace
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by twizted_diablo View Post
My Sin is currently equipped with Bramble and Widowmaker. I do have Treachery and Demon Machine Xbow, so I will swap out and see how it goes.

-TD
No no no no treachery, unless you have enough IAS for breakpoints already. The fade overrides Burst of Speed if you get hit, and it can get really, really really annoying :O
Reply With Quote

  #28 (permalink)  
Old 07-01-2009, 08:07 AM
twizted_diablo's Avatar
twizted_diablo twizted_diablo is offline
Greater Mummy
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: AZ
Posts: 867
Rep Power: 6
twizted_diablo has a spectacular aura abouttwizted_diablo has a spectacular aura abouttwizted_diablo has a spectacular aura about
Send a message via MSN to twizted_diablo Send a message via Yahoo to twizted_diablo
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Asian_Menace View Post
No no no no treachery, unless you have enough IAS for breakpoints already. The fade overrides Burst of Speed if you get hit, and it can get really, really really annoying :O
LOL ok no Treachery, stick with Bramble, but swap out Widowmaker for Demon Machine?
__________________
Reply With Quote

  #29 (permalink)  
Old 07-01-2009, 08:12 AM
Asian_Menace's Avatar
Asian_Menace Asian_Menace is offline
Greater Mummy
 

Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
Posts: 964
Rep Power: 6
Asian_Menace has a spectacular aura aboutAsian_Menace has a spectacular aura about
Send a message via AIM to Asian_Menace
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by twizted_diablo View Post
LOL ok no Treachery, stick with Bramble, but swap out Widowmaker for Demon Machine?
Sounds good, let me know how it works out
Reply With Quote

  #30 (permalink)  
Old 07-02-2009, 11:18 AM
twizted_diablo's Avatar
twizted_diablo twizted_diablo is offline
Greater Mummy
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: AZ
Posts: 867
Rep Power: 6
twizted_diablo has a spectacular aura abouttwizted_diablo has a spectacular aura abouttwizted_diablo has a spectacular aura about
Send a message via MSN to twizted_diablo Send a message via Yahoo to twizted_diablo
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Asian_Menace View Post
Sounds good, let me know how it works out
After reaching lvl 83 to put the final piece of gear on, Andy's Helm w/ 15ias jewel, I went to try this char out both PvM and PvP.

Because of the lack of defense and resis, my char got crushed in PvP. Going against casters and range attack players, my char was no match for them.

As far as PvM, my char has a rough time running Hell Solo. Unlike the PsN Necro, Rabies Druid, and Plague Javazon, the venom skill for the assassin does not spread. With a group of monsters you have to shoot each one to poison each one.

I kinda wish I could have maxed out Fade but that would cancel out BoS and this build needed all the BoS it could get.

The only pro I see about this char is getting to places fast. With BoS and Cloak of Shadows, I can run to Baal in no time if there is no tele char in the game.

Here is my gear set up (im at work so this is off the top of my head)

Andy's Helm w/ 15 IAS
Bramble AP Armor
Cat's Eye
2x 20dex RavenFrost Rings
Demon Machine Xbow/Widowmaker Bow
Nosferatu Coil
Trang Gloves
Shadow Dancer Boots
S Torch
2x SD GC's

All in all she does about 22xx Psn Damage
Thought this char might be fun, I knew should would not be Godly, but I wanted to have fun with. Trial and error I guess.

I give this build C-

Moving on to the Enchat Bowceress
__________________
Reply With Quote

  #31 (permalink)  
Old 07-03-2009, 03:24 AM
Asian_Menace's Avatar
Asian_Menace Asian_Menace is offline
Greater Mummy
 

Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
Posts: 964
Rep Power: 6
Asian_Menace has a spectacular aura aboutAsian_Menace has a spectacular aura about
Send a message via AIM to Asian_Menace
Default

Did you stack psn charms in your inventory?

Also, how was your skill setup? Death Sentry would wreck in this build. Also worth considering, gloves with multishot charges.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:27 PM.


vBulletin skins developed by: eXtremepixels
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC8
Copyright ©2000-2008 RPGForums.com